When the Pope Dies

[natty dread]

The whole concept of sin is laughable. The way it is defined, there's no way anyone could ever live without committing some sin. Then the church comes along and tells you to surrender all your critical thought and buy the magical jesus cure.

It's a perfect business! First, create an imaginary need: you're all sinners, you need to get rid of the sin.
Second, sell an imaginary solution: accept Jesus and your sin doesn't matter anymore. And then you're hooked.

[Timminz]

The whole concept of sin is laughable. The way it is defined, there's no way anyone could ever live without committing some sin. Then the church comes along and tells you to surrender all your critical thought and buy the magical jesus cure.

It's a perfect business! First, create an imaginary need: you're all sinners, you need to get rid of the sin.
Second, sell an imaginary solution: accept Jesus and your sin doesn't matter anymore. And then you're hooked.

Third, get an income tax exemption.

[natty dread]

The whole concept of sin is laughable. The way it is defined, there's no way anyone could ever live without committing some sin. Then the church comes along and tells you to surrender all your critical thought and buy the magical jesus cure.

It's a perfect business! First, create an imaginary need: you're all sinners, you need to get rid of the sin.
Second, sell an imaginary solution: accept Jesus and your sin doesn't matter anymore. And then you're hooked.

Third, get an income tax exemption.

Fourth, let the donations flow in.

[Army of GOD]

The whole concept of sin is laughable. The way it is defined, there's no way anyone could ever live without committing some sin. Then the church comes along and tells you to surrender all your critical thought and buy the magical jesus cure.

It's a perfect business! First, create an imaginary need: you're all sinners, you need to get rid of the sin.
Second, sell an imaginary solution: accept Jesus and your sin doesn't matter anymore. And then you're hooked.

Third, get an income tax exemption.

Fourth, let the donations flow in.

Fifth, molesting little boys is a-ok.

[Aradhus]

The eating of the apple wasn't the sin that was committed. The actual sin was disobeying what God had commanded. They were able to sin because they had the free will to choose what they wanted to do. They did not have to sin, and if they had not, death would not have entered the world.

lol

God: "You have free will, but use it to disobey me and I'll kill you"

What's so funny? Do you think that every decision should have exactly zero consequences? You don't get to just make decisions that have positive consequences. Bad consequences exist also.

God created us in his image. We sin. Therefore God sins.

f*ck God, that hypocrite.

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

Is murder a sin? I'm pretty sure god has killed a few people in his time. One time he lost his shit and flooded the planet. He apologised though for letting his pride get the best of him that he got so angry about all his creatures not worshipping his existence like good dogs should to their master. Wow, that sentence is a mouthful. I'm sure the bible says god is a jealous fellar, is that also a sin?

[Timminz]

I'm sure the bible says god is a jealous fellar, is that also a sin?

Is a "fellar", one who fellates?

[natty dread]

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

Is murder a sin? I'm pretty sure god has killed a few people in his time. One time he lost his shit and flooded the planet. He apologised though for letting his pride get the best of him that he got so angry about all his creatures not worshipping his existence like good dogs should to their master. Wow, that sentence is a mouthful. I'm sure the bible says god is a jealous fellar, is that also a sin?

Oh but those parts were probably all just meant to be interpreted. They're not meant to be taken so literally. It's like a metaphor for how god is actually really great and doesn't do any bad things ever.

[Aradhus]

ah, I figured it out guys, god doesn't sin because he enacted the nixon loophole.

[pimpdave]

Remember that time God trolled Abraham into almost killing his son? Super lulzy.

[rockfist]

Are you comparing yourself to God or Abraham?

[chang50]

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

Is murder a sin? I'm pretty sure god has killed a few people in his time. One time he lost his shit and flooded the planet. He apologised though for letting his pride get the best of him that he got so angry about all his creatures not worshipping his existence like good dogs should to their master. Wow, that sentence is a mouthful. I'm sure the bible says god is a jealous fellar, is that also a sin?

Oh but those parts were probably all just meant to be interpreted. They're not meant to be taken so literally. It's like a metaphor for how god is actually really great and doesn't do any bad things ever.

So who gets to decide which parts of the bible are literal and which are symbolic/allegorical?Hell of a tedious job sifting thru all that nonesense with a marker pen even for a committee..

[Night Strike]

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

Is murder a sin? I'm pretty sure god has killed a few people in his time. One time he lost his shit and flooded the planet. He apologised though for letting his pride get the best of him that he got so angry about all his creatures not worshipping his existence like good dogs should to their master. Wow, that sentence is a mouthful. I'm sure the bible says god is a jealous fellar, is that also a sin?

Oh but those parts were probably all just meant to be interpreted. They're not meant to be taken so literally. It's like a metaphor for how god is actually really great and doesn't do any bad things ever.

Nope, they are meant to be taken literally. God is the only one worthy enough to be worshiped, so when people strayed so far away from him that He knew they would never return, He chose to wipe them out and start anew.

The whole concept of sin is laughable. The way it is defined, there's no way anyone could ever live without committing some sin. Then the church comes along and tells you to surrender all your critical thought and buy the magical jesus cure.

It's a perfect business! First, create an imaginary need: you're all sinners, you need to get rid of the sin.
Second, sell an imaginary solution: accept Jesus and your sin doesn't matter anymore. And then you're hooked.

Exactly, every person has sinned. It's not some made up concept to get money. It's a state of being for all people, which is why we had to have someone who was perfect atone for our sins because the punishment for any sin is death.

[natty dread]

Nope, they are meant to be taken literally.

Even the parts that contradict each other?

It's not some made up concept to get money.

Sure it is. There's no such thing as sin. No one is a sinner, you can stop feeling guilty now.

[MeDeFe]

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

If sinning is disobeying god, just how is god supposed to disobey himself? It's a logical impossibility, unless god has a multiple personality disorder.

[chang50]

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

If sinning is disobeying god, just how is god supposed to disobey himself? It's a logical impossibility, unless god has a multiple personality disorder.

Well he does have multiple personalities,3 to be exact,although precisely what a holy spirit is nobody is quite sure.

[zimmah]

it should be illegal to put the words got and pope in one sentence, except if it has "doesn't have anything to do with" in between.

when the pope dies, the world just looks for a new retard.

[jonesthecurl]

The eating of the apple wasn't the sin that was committed. The actual sin was disobeying what God had commanded. They were able to sin because they had the free will to choose what they wanted to do. They did not have to sin, and if they had not, death would not have entered the world.

lol

God: "You have free will, but use it to disobey me and I'll kill you"

What's so funny? Do you think that every decision should have exactly zero consequences? You don't get to just make decisions that have positive consequences. Bad consequences exist also.

God created us in his image. We sin. Therefore God sins.

f*ck God, that hypocrite.

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

Um, I thought the fruit was "the knowledge of good and evil".
How can you sin if you don't know the difference? God says "Don't do this", but you don't know that it's wrong to do it until you do it. Then it's your fault for not knowing it was wrong before you discovered what "right and wrong" are.

[Night Strike]

Nope, they are meant to be taken literally.

Even the parts that contradict each other?

They don't.

It's not some made up concept to get money.

Sure it is. There's no such thing as sin. No one is a sinner, you can stop feeling guilty now.

I guess we'll find out if you're still saying that when you're in Hell.

[natty dread]

Nope, they are meant to be taken literally.

Even the parts that contradict each other?

They don't.

How exactly do you rationalize that to yourself? Are the contradicting parts some conspiracy by the devil?

It's not some made up concept to get money.

Sure it is. There's no such thing as sin. No one is a sinner, you can stop feeling guilty now.

I guess we'll find out if you're still saying that when you're in Hell.

Are you saying I'm going to hell? Why is that?

Does it give you pleasure to imagine the people you disagree with are "getting their comeuppance" some day?

[Night Strike]

Nope, they are meant to be taken literally.

Even the parts that contradict each other?

They don't.

How exactly do you rationalize that to yourself? Are the contradicting parts some conspiracy by the devil?

The Bible is not contradictory, which is why there is no need for a rationalization.

It's not some made up concept to get money.

Sure it is. There's no such thing as sin. No one is a sinner, you can stop feeling guilty now.

I guess we'll find out if you're still saying that when you're in Hell.

Are you saying I'm going to hell? Why is that?

Does it give you pleasure to imagine the people you disagree with are "getting their comeuppance" some day?

No. You've just seemingly made up your mind that Christianity is for "lesser beings" and that you will live haughtily above it for the rest of your life. You've already made up your mind and nothing I say on a mostly anonymous website is going to convince you, so there's not much of a point in me trying.

[AndyDufresne]

Logic fail. We were made in his image in that we have free will to choose what we will do. We chose to sin, He did not.

If sinning is disobeying god, just how is god supposed to disobey himself? It's a logical impossibility, unless god has a multiple personality disorder.

What?! The game is rigged?


--Andy

[natty dread]

The Bible is not contradictory, which is why there is no need for a rationalization.

Oh, well here's a list of over 400 bible contradictions: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/c ... _name.html

How do you rationalize all those if the bible is inerrant and meant as literal?

No. You've just seemingly made up your mind that Christianity is for "lesser beings" and that you will live haughtily above it for the rest of your life. You've already made up your mind and nothing I say on a mostly anonymous website is going to convince you, so there's not much of a point in me trying.

So I'm not going to hell after all?

Yayy. Let the sinning begin!

[Night Strike]

The Bible is not contradictory, which is why there is no need for a rationalization.

Oh, well here's a list of over 400 bible contradictions: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/c ... _name.html

How do you rationalize all those if the bible is inerrant and meant as literal?

I'm not a scholar of Greek or Hebrew and have never done an extensive study of these. But I can pretty well guarantee you that most, if not all, of these "errors" are simply due to English being unable to convey the exact words/meanings as the original language or due to taking things out of context. Just quickly take the Abraham having 1 or many children that was counted as an error. Isaac was seen as Abraham's heir and was the child promised to him. Therefore, he was the truly begotten one while the others were either illegitimate or from other wives.

And I'm not going to waste my time trying to answer every single one, because until I do, you'll just say "Yeah, but what about (whichever number is next)." And you aren't even doing your own research into why these were labeled as errors: all you've done is linked to a site. Furthermore, none of these perceived errors are in any way related to the actual central tenants of Christianity.

No. You've just seemingly made up your mind that Christianity is for "lesser beings" and that you will live haughtily above it for the rest of your life. You've already made up your mind and nothing I say on a mostly anonymous website is going to convince you, so there's not much of a point in me trying.

So I'm not going to hell after all?

Yayy. Let the sinning begin!

No, you're going to Hell if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Savior. There's no other way to heaven, therefore all those who reject him (or don't accept him) go to Hell.

[Aradhus]

The Bible is not contradictory, which is why there is no need for a rationalization.

Oh, well here's a list of over 400 bible contradictions: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/c ... _name.html

How do you rationalize all those if the bible is inerrant and meant as literal?

There are no contradictions in the bible, but if there are it is only because opposing ideas are contradictory.

I did not rape that women, your honor, but if I did it was only because she wouldn't consent.

TO nightstrike, but FOR everyone else

[barackattack]

Rape is a classic case of 'it takes two to tango'. Women create rape when they say 'no'. If women said 'yes' then rape could never occur. They are the creators of this blight on our society.

Something to think about.